Patch 4.0.1 on test realms

[hiih]

OK, but patients is not one of my better qualities.

On a side note, what was the video you were talking about at the last raid Zan??
45 second video on youtube on dancing or singing cows?

Post the name if you can.

[Zanzier]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlJVO1c7_fM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QqCDW7iJhI

[hiih]

Thanks..... i think. Funny, but it was udderly ridiculous.

[Dave]

Got the initial part of the test client installed last night, but the copy queue was totally full, so I created a noob 'lock on test.  I haven't seen all the changes yet, but I really like the ones that I have seen.

I got some toons in the copy queue first thing this morning, and I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the changes when Herbert arrives.

[Kaelianna]

I checked this morning and there is still a wait of 3 days to copy a toon.  I would rather copy Kael and see what the changes look like for her as my main than create a new. 

Is there a cut off point for being able to copy a  toon over to the test realm?

[Dave]

When I queued my toons this morning, I was also told that there was a wait of three days.  When I got in just now after the servers came up, one of my characters was copied over (my level 35, non-guilded Tauren shaman that duos with my son).  It's odd that they copied that one, since Herbert was first in line, the Charona, then my shaman, then a bank alt with all of my extra heirlooms (to twink noob toons on test).  This one was flagged for a name change on test, though, so that might be why he's the one that got copied.

OMFG!!!  I just got back to Orgrimmar, and people are on their flying mounts!  It looks like you can't FLY in Org (they're all walking), but they're there.  :D

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And, thought you might want to know, someone just said in Trade chat, "I LOVE MY NEW TALENTS Holy palys kick major ass".

[Kaelianna]

WOOOOTTTT>>>   but I already knew that holy pallys kick ass.  =D

[Benggal]

You mean there was a wait of 3 days to be able to get into the queue...or it just said that it would take on average 3 days to copy your toon once it's in the queue?  If the former, I was just able to submit another toon for copy if you want to try it now.  If the latter, don't go by that estimate.  Most people seem to be getting at least one toon copied by the next day.  The estimate they throw up there is almost always inaccurate.

[Kaelianna]

It says there is at least a 3 day wait to even ask to get a toon copied and now a wait to make a premade

[hiih]

I copied Shaddam over yesterday morning, and he still is not there yet.... 32 hours later.

[Zanzier]

I let the download continue over-night while I slept. Takes a few hours.

In any case, I went in with Zanz and the changes with 4.0 are, for the most part, disheartening.
The emblem changes, the cost for gear on emblem vendors, the gear stats.......as well as many more things I've seen.
Flying mounts are summonable in Azeroth, the only thing is they act just like regular ground mounts, so don't summon a drake in the old world thinking you can now fly around there.
As far as glyphs go, we have 3 new slots. They are called 'Prime Glyphs'. They work the same way the major glyphs do, so it's basically up to six major glyphs and three minor. Talents have all been reset so look into that as soon as your higher level toons log in.

Unless Blizzard makes a MAJOR overhaul to this new system, I don't see myself staying with WoW for too much longer (Cata expansion or not). If I wanted to get the feel of 'a new game', then I would be playing a different game altogether. Maybe Blizz should have made this WoW2 and left the original alone, as far as mechanics go. <Shrug> It was the deathnail for EQ............looks like this has the possibility of being WoW's.

Will wait and see. I know, I know, the arguement is  they are still working on this 'test', but just the direction they are going in makes me leary of it all.

[Zanzier]

Found some info  on the test realm changes as well as Cataclysm changes.
Could very well be on an enormous number of other sites, but just though I'd plop down this link cause it looked rather straight-forward.

http://wowmb.net/

[Benggal]

Class mechanics change with every expansion, why should Cata be any different?

I've been playing around with both the new Hunter and Warlock systems and both seem pretty fun.  They will just take some getting used to.  Pretty much like the skills you use in Live now did.

I'm really getting the hang of the new Focus system for Hunters, and it looks like they'll have to tweak some numbers around since BM has been WAY overpowered from what I've seen, but overall I like it.  For locks it's nice not to have to carry a sack of soul shards around and empowering some of your spells with the new Soul skill can really lead towards some kickass combos.  I haven't delved into it enough to figure out how you're supposed to regenerate soul pieces during a long battle (Blizz said they'd have a mechanic in to make it possible), but for the typical quest mobs it seems to work almost the same.

I like the emblem changes.  For one thing, now I don't have to exhange Triumph emblems 5-6 times just to get the sort of emblem I need to buy older items (or gems).  For another, it just seems to make more sense in the long run to keep us from getting into the same situation again with "legacy" emblems.

Gear stat changes for the most part make more sense and help people figure out whether or not a new piece of gear is an upgrade without having to ALT+TAB out of WoW and look up a stat calculator or whatever.  Some of the more confusing stats were removed and Mastery is thrown in instead (though that's not on the PTR yet from what I see).

I mentioned it before, but it's all really just going to take a lot of getting used to.  I think in the end most people will be happy with the changes, though I understand some people are fed up with change. :P hehe

Zan, if you head off you'll have to give me your contact info so I can sucker you into some other game.  Plan on playing SWTOR? :D

[Benggal]

Just did a quick test with Recount loaded (Didn't have it in the rest of the time) and without having an optimal spec/gems/added glyphs/shot rotation I'm only doing slightly less DPS than I used to, AND I don't have to worry about running out of mana and switching to Viper during a long fight.

[Benggal]

Also, every char I've had marked for copy (including ones I requested yesterday) are in now.  I think they're working quickly through the backlog now that it's not the weekend. :P